go up. as a round about way of answering your question. that's what the experts are saying. >> that's kind of in the short-term and if you are kind of unwilling to answer the first question, long-term, i know this is somewhat impossible to do. long-term, seems to me common thinking is a romney presidency generally good for business and obama presidency not as good for business. so long-term is that how we think things will play out up there? >> yes. again, that's what most people are thinking here. at the moment, given current stock prices, most stock certainly the big big corporations, they are pretty cheap if you compare the profit they make to the price of the stock. then they are cheap. and the only way -- not the only way to go but most likely way to go is up if we get that 4 or 5% growth.